tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post1382081450443626155..comments2024-03-26T09:32:16.524-04:00Comments on Cultural Compulsive Disorder: WTF Was That? 5 Reasons Why "True Detective Season 2" Ended Up Shitting The Bed...Mike D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04034128762993882657noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-64037832374220905642015-08-13T02:24:01.512-04:002015-08-13T02:24:01.512-04:00Can't. Wait. Get in there...
MDCan't. Wait. Get in there...<br /><br />MDMike D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04034128762993882657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-75264438532424621032015-08-11T15:06:20.165-04:002015-08-11T15:06:20.165-04:00The polarizing chatter occurring from season 1 and...The polarizing chatter occurring from season 1 and season 2 has made one thing evident to me. I'm going to request that you allow me to recap season 3 on CCD like I did with 'Lost', week-to-week, so we can hash it out together as it's happening. There's ZERO doubt in my mind, at this point, that HBO will greenlight a 3rd season. Everyone was still watching it even while saying they hated it!JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-86483416874592636342015-08-11T15:00:15.631-04:002015-08-11T15:00:15.631-04:00Also, I think you're dwelling, too much, on th...Also, I think you're dwelling, too much, on the Mexican cartel. They popped up in the story line looking to run drugs in Semyon's club after he took it over from the chubbster with gold teeth in the 2nd or 3rd Ep (correct me if I'm wrong) just as simply as Semyon popped up in that bakery looking to do business with those Eastern Europeans. They weren't THE major group of organized criminals in this series (but were kinda scary)...they were just one of many. The reason they seem SoOo prominent by the end of the series might be because they were responsible for Semyon's demise. That demise wasn't really one that they chose either. They just abducted Semyon to 'renegotiate' again after Semyon burned the clubs down stopping there drug sales and costing them money. Yes, they had a grave dug for him in case he refused compensation but, they were satisfied with the renegotiation until the altercation over Semyon's suit. (which was really just an add-insult-to injury kind of thing. Like knocking a kid down in high school and than telling him to give you his sneakers. give up the sneakers and you walk) I'm fairly certain they'd have let Semyon walk home, unscathed, had he given up both the million and the suit but, it became a principle thing for Frank. JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-6613329899230340262015-08-11T14:43:54.818-04:002015-08-11T14:43:54.818-04:00I understand where you're coming from with thi...I understand where you're coming from with this new point about the necessary paperwork being at the secluded cabin where they hold private sex parties and the people invited all have to be on the same page so no one gets ratted on but, isn't that EXACTLY where the best place to keep said paperwork? You're grasping at too many straws. First of all, If I were hiding a double-life away from my family at a secluded cabin where I have both secret business meetings away from the general public and insane sexual parties...wouldn't that be the perfect place to also keep my secret files in my secret cabin office? BUT (and I could be wrong) I don't even necessarily think they were KEEPING these files there (although I'd stand by their decision to do so if there's proof that I'm overlooking that said files where stored there) The paperwork was just there in that scene when they needed to be signed. Who's to say they didn't relocate all those files once they were done at that particular event?JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-49971211503208629792015-08-11T12:07:43.869-04:002015-08-11T12:07:43.869-04:00I was on board with Season 1 throughout, and I lov...I was on board with Season 1 throughout, and I loved the final result. I also reserved my judgement for this season until it ended.... and I had hope that it would even out and satisfy me by the end. In my opinion, it didn't... that is just me though.<br /><br />Everyone is certainly entitled to theirs... Mike D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04034128762993882657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-17068581558095978572015-08-11T12:05:30.361-04:002015-08-11T12:05:30.361-04:00There in lies the problem Jeff. This Land Deal car...There in lies the problem Jeff. This Land Deal cartel throwing sex parties still keep ALL of their IMPORTANT PAPERWORK at this undisclosed cabin where the sex parties occur... even after the death of Caspere? Really? That seems awfully convenient. They would be on the defensive, and the most certainly would have a much more secure location to keep their "plans". Yet they are sitting right there in an unguarded office, for Kitsch & Velcoro to snatch up MID SEX PARTY! <br /><br />Kind of like how Woody and Matt lept from a house painting receipt to the idea of the Spaghetti Monster being the maintenance man and ultimately leading them to Carcosa. All that material and evidence to pour over, and then boom "didn't this house get painted? By who...." leads them to the bad guy. <br /><br />I didn't like it then, I didn't like it now. It is like the wrote Caspere as a sex creep from ep #1 so that they can eventually infiltrate a sex party and get all the paperwork in ep #5 or #6 . Dumb<br /><br />The Mexican Cartel came in Episode #4 or 5, and were only here or there from then on. All of the sudden at the end they were Larger Than Life... A bigger threat than the Russians (who Frank fucked over with the fires and killed a bunch of their men?) & the Black Water op guys who were obviously onto Velcoro but didn't know about his bossman? Weird...<br /><br />And there is no defending the main bad guy, Lenny, only appearing 1 time before the finale. They didn't even start revealing the jewelry heist/murder aspect of the 92 plot until ep 6 or 7. Not fair...<br /><br />Just my opinion, you are entitled to yours. I was glued to the TV too... just don't like the final product!Mike D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04034128762993882657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-38990352511864891042015-08-11T10:12:46.266-04:002015-08-11T10:12:46.266-04:00Agreed. BTW weren't those shots of the Califor...Agreed. BTW weren't those shots of the California highways in TD 2 a thing of beauty?!JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-10840060768089016242015-08-11T10:10:40.225-04:002015-08-11T10:10:40.225-04:00That's fair. I agree with most of you assessme...That's fair. I agree with most of you assessment. I disagree that there wasn't enough to chew on, though. If anything there was TOO much to chew on...but, I'd say it was perfect for my consumption. JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-50762688889901636462015-08-11T01:25:25.584-04:002015-08-11T01:25:25.584-04:00I was so in love with 98 percent of the first seas...I was so in love with 98 percent of the first season. If not for that tacked on ending that solved no mystery ruined what up to that point I viewed as one of the greatest shows EVER on TV. Then came season two and for most of it I had NO idea what was going on. I couldn't follow the crime or the conspiracy. Nothing was layed out for me like I expected or had been used to expecting. That frustrated me. But I was so upset how great the finale was and how much I cared about the fate of these characters. The way Vic's message never got out. And poor doomed Frank. He never had a chance from the start. But looking back I like the season more and more. It really did all make sense in the end. Are lives amount to the hard decisions we make or are forced to make and how we live with ourselves after tragedy all but consumes us. No happy endings. No redemption. Just collateral damage. But now I have to admit I would watch a good revenge fantasy with those two women and that baby we saw at the end. What are they up to? Only at the end did you capture my interest True Detective. I just wish you could have given me more to chew on as we went along.Cal's Canadian Cave of Coolnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08408150910056369989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-28125701847496988822015-08-10T22:16:19.063-04:002015-08-10T22:16:19.063-04:00TD season 1TD season 1Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09533904181660531991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-53711435165651787062015-08-10T22:15:25.371-04:002015-08-10T22:15:25.371-04:00I was onboard TS season 1 from the opening scene. ...I was onboard TS season 1 from the opening scene. Breathtakingly shot and amazing dialogue. A lot of people were as well, my FB feed blew up with people commenting on it after it debuted. Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09533904181660531991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-52892968617757162732015-08-10T21:06:59.529-04:002015-08-10T21:06:59.529-04:00Now, I want to say that I know the characters and ...Now, I want to say that I know the characters and dialogue are dense but, at the end of the day these are police procedurals in my opinion. The trouble I have with all of those network CSI & NCIS type of shows is that they present a crime and solve it within one episode....sure a few days or maybe even a month go by within the ep but, come on, you know crimes do NOT get solved in that type of time span. TD takes a crime and stretches it out to a realistic time frame. Months....years.......sometimes the case seems to go completely cold on our detectives.....but, that's what makes it real. At it's root it is a REALISTIC version of a police procedural.<br /><br />The reason I point this out it because, since some heavy-hitters choose to sign up for this show each season, some people seem to be watching this series as if they were simply character pieces solely about the detectives...and that's OK. But, when the detectives turn out to be people you don't completely care for than you look to jump ship on the show. Millions of people watch CSI and NCIS and all these other spin offs each week....but, I don't hear anyone talking about LL Cool J or Sam Watterson's characters in conjunction with their shows like I do Matthew McConaughey or Colin Farrell's characters. There tuning in for the crime and to see it solved. I know I'm going to get attacked for that opinion but, if you intend to give season 3 a shot...try watching it as a realistic police procedural rather than as characters pieces....than you won't let so much weight lay on the shoulders of it's detectives.<br /><br />But, If you're trying THAT hard to like this series, please simply give up. Why do viewers these days continuously tune in for shows and films that keep making them angry. There's a billion other shows available. Find one that suits you from soup to nuts and keep at it! <br /><br />Finally, let me just say that I was COMPLETELY on board with season 1....and I don't think I'm reaching when I say so was my better half and a few others I spoke to regularly throughout the first season. To make a accusation that people are liars if they say they dug it right out the box, is just poor blogsmanship. <br /><br />There was a LOT going on this season as well as last. I agree. After each season's end, I was more than satisfied. Honestly, my ONLY major gripe (if you can believe it) was that both seasons ended in similar fashion with TOO MUCH extra ending. I was satisfied that both stories were complete around the 3/4 mark of each finale. The events that followed seemed kind of tacked on in both cases...but, to me that's like whipped cream on top of ice cream...I simply ordered the ice cream but, if you're handing out whipped cream as well..I'll take it!<br /><br />Maybe it's the jedi training I received from 6 seasons of patiently sifting through episodes of 'Lost' week to week (a lot of which, decidedly, contained red-herring story lines) but, this shows speaks to me. I have been completely immersed in this series and I CAN NOT wait to see what season 3 will hold. <br /><br /><br />JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-32826675912051946402015-08-10T21:06:38.652-04:002015-08-10T21:06:38.652-04:00I disagree with you that most of the series' ...I disagree with you that most of the series' smaller plot lines didn't pay off. <br /><br />-Caspere's sex addiction didn't pay off?! It was the basis of this whole series. He went to fuck-parties with the other shady business dealers. Stemming from those parties he fucked both the victim of the jewelry store robbery and later HER daughter who turns out is actually HIS daughter! (Guh-ross) The Perpetrators of this WHOLE murder...killed Caspere because of these sex crimes that lead to the sexual abuse and murders of their parents! Case Closed. <br /><br />-Lenny wore the bird mask because he simply took it off the wall where Caspere's other animal heads hung. Check the episode where Lenny/Birdman shoots Velcoro. There's clearly a few animal heads on display on the wall and there's simply one missing and a blank mannequin head sits between a goat and something else. He wasn't 'The Birdman' killer or anything. He just grabbed something creepy to cover his face that was right there in plane sight! Same as when he grabbed an odd white mask, presumably from the apololyptic movie set. When he tried to dump and burn the car used in the crime near the home of a would-be-suspect.<br /><br />-As you hinted, Ray Velcoro's ex didn't get the paternity test done sooner because that was the only thing keeping Velcoro from going completely mental. He pleaded with her regularly, do anything you gotta do but, don't have the tests done. He didn't want a paper telling him what he already believed in his heart. He'd sooner give his son UP than have her get those tests done. She only had it done at the end, in a strange moment of grief...or perhaps she had it done sooner, unbeknownst to us, and was simply reflecting on it in the shows final moments. <br /><br />The mayor's son? Velcoro's dad? Woodrugh's mom ...fiance'...impending child? This is all there to show that, for better or worse, 'life goes on' after the series ends. After the loss of the son he helped fuck up, Maybe Velcoro Sr. reaches out to his grandson who, you know, is now in possession of his badge. Maybe Woodrugh's mom finally finds some peace in life by helping with her soon-to-be grandchild. Maybe the new mayor of Vinci goes down a new road of corruption. Who knows. None of this needs clarification. Again, it's just proof that life goes on. <br /><br />-I don't think the Mexican drug cartel was magically 'popping up' anymore than were any other character or characters in each of the 8 episodes. Did Holloway 'pop up'..Dixon? Osip? Velcoro's son? Woodrugh's male lover? If you have 8 episodes and any of these characters or groups make it in to 3 or 4 of those episodes I think they are doing pretty well, no? All of them help to drive the plot.JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8890300254470726941.post-596186974804500872015-08-10T21:06:04.184-04:002015-08-10T21:06:04.184-04:00On the whole, I'm the guy that couldn't be...On the whole, I'm the guy that couldn't be MORE happy about this season, as well as it's predecessor. While others spent time scratching their heads, worrying whether they were getting taken for a ride, or simply jumping ship...I was glued to the set each week hanging on each and every word and flipping out when the credits rolled ...only because I'd have to wait another 7 days for more!I think it was written and directed well. I thought ALL of the characters were brilliant in their own way and the actors that portrayed them did a fantastic job. <br /><br />Let me say that I'm not certain why the the creators of this show would seemingly seek out four big Hollywood names that are synonymous with either box office failure (cough 'Kitsch of Death') or normally type-casted in a completely different character direction. Perhaps someone has something to prove...either the casting director, the shows creator or the actors themselves but, I was just fine with the performances as delivered and I think this series did a pretty good job of opening up future roles, than the ones we're accustomed to from these actors. <br /><br />Let's get into it, though, shall we?<br /><br />First and foremost, I'm confused as to why you would suggest Vince Vaughn was the "big bad" of this season. That must simply be a writing mistake on your part. You did see that the 'Big Bad' of this season was a collection shady land developers that knew each other for decades and used wild sex parties to push the deals forward behind the whole town's back, including the back of Frank Semyon. <br /><br />This might be a wild concept. But, If anything, I was under the impression that Frank Semyon was one of this season's True Detectives. A guy, similar to Ray Velcoro, who came up through the system the wrong way and who was now on a better path. Both spent the larger half of this season investigating the death of THE main victim Ben Caspere in their own way with the tools they had at their disposal. Both were anti-heroes in my opinion. <br /><br />This white horse = 'good guy' & black hat = 'big bad' thing, you and I were raised on, hardly exists anymore. There's no longer He-Man and Skeletor.....G.I. Joe & Cobra.....There's a wonderfully gifted boy that makes poor choices and goes down the path to become Darth Vader. There's Maleficent who, instead of an inherently ugly witch, was a beautiful wronged child that took revenge on an kingdom formerly viewed as one of pure light. Netflix's Daredevil & Kingpin whom both have streaks of good and bad in them. There's no time to push a peg marked 'Velcoro' or 'Semyon' into a hole marked 'Hero' or 'Villain'. Everyone on film and TV are human these days...sometimes they do good things and somedays they make poor judgements. I haven't decided if I love that or hate it but, it does make the story less predictable and more interesting in the long run. JBondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367998313603035574noreply@blogger.com